[spectre] bonsoir

Sally Jane NORMAN norman@wanadoo.fr
Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:20:37 +0100


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Dear Spectres,

Long strange saga, this hisss-story. Poignant and irritating. Interstanding
perhaps still not quite attained in our spectra. Question of wavelength ?
Nanometric netiquette ?

Hoping that those at recent and current and future face-to-face encounters
are to some extent fired by the energy and will that brought some of us
together in the first place.

It’s been encouraging to follow up a bunch of recent announcements complying
with my archaic vision of the list ; sort of helps when they break through
some of the verbal exhibitionism. Which may be how others see my
contribution so I won’t lay it on too thick – does netiquette mean
respecting others to the extent of not voicing personal preferences even and
especially when somebody obviously very well-bred is decent enough only to
advertise a tiny chunk of excruciating textual « genius » ?

Under all these doubts a persistent, gnawing irritation (those rats in the
roof again ?), perhaps mine alone. I’m perplexed at the way/ fact that
analysis of passivity and lurking by anonymous subscribers is so clearly
described as the (partial) cause of upheavals and changes in the prevous
list, while its successor has meanwhile snowballed overnight from a few
dozen to 250, again raising the same old issue of anonymity : who’s talking,
who’s listening, who cares ? Paradoxical. To harp on again with an old
obsession, it might be of interest to a few of us get an overview of the
current list, in terms of geographies and cartographies, including the
nomads and homeless and proverbial voyagers. To see how « deep Europe » we
still really are. (Speaking as a kiwi, naturellement) But I’m well aware of
the fact that that kind of thing is a task in itself. Especially when it
means overviewing a mushrooming community and winter's setting in.

Looking forward to discovering Skopje in a fortnight and having a go at «
Understanding the Balkans ». Odd coincidences mean that my funny little
cognac comic-strip town of Angoulême has cultural ties with Skopje that may
make it possible to build some more lasting links. Between people basically.
Via art. Because I tend not to dissociate art, in keeping with my probably
solipsist/ autistic definition of it, from people and their needs. In fact,
to really put my foot in it (that’s ok, I got two), would define art as
something people need. The art of living is a real seller these days. But oh
shit, that’s verging on the polemical, something that seems to have fallen
out of fashion. Like my uncontrollable fucking bad language.

Love and kisses to all

sjn




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when they break through some of the verbal exhibitionism. Which may be =
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cartographies, including the nomads and homeless and proverbial =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Looking forward to discovering Skopje in a =
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having a go at =AB&nbsp;Understanding the Balkans&nbsp;=BB. Odd =
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possible to=20
build some more lasting links. Between people basically. Via art. =
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not to dissociate art, in keeping with my probably solipsist/ autistic=20
definition of it, from people and their needs. In fact, to really put my =
foot in=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Love and kisses to all</P>
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