[spectre] smth on what Inke and Andreas told about
Oleg Kireev
kireev2000@cityline.ru
Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:59:12 +0300
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Dear friends,
it's really a pleasure to join a new list instead of the old one which =
really seemed to be stagnating. I think there were some peculiar moments =
in the very beginning of the Syndicate existence which made it so =
innovative. first, people were from different countries, many from the =
Eastern ones, and the list could briefly be informed on the events going =
on across Europe. people used to comment in the net what we saw on TV =
and we had the immediate analytical reports from the people we knew. =
that was especially so in the case of Balcanian war. I remember a buhcn =
of Serbian guys telling what's on with the bombings, and for sure always =
brave Melentie with his newsservice, etc. i ever thought, why people =
don't simply ask and tell what's going on in their countries on the =
fields of policy, arts, new media, theorism or whatever. Net =
communication let us do and know so much. i myself tried to tell the =
Russian realities, especially the underreported ones, in my mailgetto =
project: political marginals, zines, activists groups etc.=20
Let me try to proceed with some kind of report on today's Moscow in =
general. maybe such genre is more informative than the announcements.
First, nobody really expected any antiglobalists to be here when =
promised - at the small pre-WTO meeting early November. some TV man even =
woke me up early at morning calling and saying: you're known to be an =
anarchist, so where're your friends, what're they doing today? i said, =
no friends, let me dream about anarchy. the police nevertheless waited =
for the crowds of protestants in the center of the city, in order to =
protect boutiques and so on. nooone appeared. at the same time a crowd =
of 2 thousand skinheads were killing southern traders in the suburban =
area and no cop was there. This was the the first rise of such a massive =
fascist grouping, gathered of the football fans mostly. a really high =
percent of Moscovites expressed their solidarity. the skins say, they =
were going to beat antiglobalists as well if they come.
in general, Moscow's growing and changing rapidly. the streets and =
especially the subway seem OVERfillled by the people, as if it weren't =
able anymore to contain all of them. the city now is full of luxury =
buildings, stores, hotels, and sometimes you can hardly recognize a =
street if you weren't for a few months there. Putin and Bush now party =
in Texas, and Moscow seems to become a real globalization capital.
after a year-long television obscenity (after Putin's elections there =
were only extra-low-budget propagandist movies about militia and =
Chechnya war, mexican serials, talk-shows and so on) it became more or =
less interesting again. for ex., TV-6 is a channel where the former NTV =
team was thrown to. NTV belonged to Gusinsky, a central tycoon of 90s, =
and was the most critical and intellectual channel until 2000, i'd say. =
Noone cares about the newspapers, but TV and internet are really on the =
top. and it's funny, how sometimes brave and sharply critical many =
journalists and programs have become. The matter is, Putin never made =
any political repressions, as many of us expected him to do before he =
came. a few people, probably the innocent ones, were put into jail and =
stay there, but there were no prosecutions at all. As a leading Moscow =
art-critic Katya Dyogot said, the people in the press weren't anyhow =
forced to serve the power, they did their best themselves to do what the =
power, they supposed, would like them to do. it lead to a real =
degradation of media. but now we see some new sort of the brave media. i =
wouldn't praise them so much as well, but they're interesting as a =
phenomenon anyway.
everyone now is "leftist" and all criticize capitalism - from the =
coloured magazins for teenagers till the established TV talking heads.
some draw a sharp satire on Putin but never say anything about what's =
really going on in Chechnya. People keep telling Putin's only diplomatic =
victory since Sept. 11 was to make America forget about the human rights =
violation in Chechnya - cause now they're getting violated worldwide. =
People get really depoliticized and care about cultural things only. =
that's where the media industry was really successfull and did some big =
stuff last time.
a real trend during last weeks is a newest TV-show "Behind the Glass" at =
TV-6 which all the russian internet is filled with. 3 boys and 3 girls =
were left in an IKEA-styled flat with cameras in every corner, and =
millions of people can see them eating, sleeping etc. I mean, they're =
good guys - very young, progressive and so on, the girls are cute, and =
the main hero, Max, has yellow-black coloured hair. They listen to =
Rammstein (by the way, they gave a concert here just yesterday), =
Metallica and Massive Attack, the latter, they say, saves a lot. the =
guys have to kick one every week away by their own decision , though =
they can sell their voices on some TV-auction by some tricky system, =
etc. now there're just four staying.=20
finally they started to have sex last week. Max, this hair-coloured guy, =
and Margo, a dancer. intellectuals count the show for dirty and stupid. =
Why such purism? Guys give an extreme image of what the society is. they =
talk as we talk, they show what we ever knew but were afraid to confess. =
they could maybe pose for a couple of days but after a week they already =
gave up playing, they simply live and do their best for not to die of =
boredom. some may be shocked by their extremities, but that's the play =
the audience and actors are playing together. the image of a =
contemporary young person is finally shown and will from now be =
manifested, not latent, in that society. an everyday-life is not =
anymore a secret. everything's open.=20
the last thing, Vladimir Sorokin, a very famous Russian (and German) =
writer came to the "Behind-the-Glass" flat yesterday and a had a talk =
with the heroes. (they can have one guest every weekend, and it was =
Zhirinovsky the previous time) Sorokin warned them from becoming a =
Soviet-sort communal community which he hates a lot. Sure, his friend =
Kabakov made a whole mythology of such communal living. anyhow, Sorokin =
and IKEA, Rammstein, Putin and Taliban look all very hip for the stylish =
Behind-the-Glass heroes, but all and all is whirling around sex for =
them. the girls talked for long whom of them Sorokin liked better.
paradoxically, such sex propaganda is extremely popular since the very =
beginning of perestroika, but i haven't seen any really sex-centered =
people of my age in my own surrounding. i suspect, a true underground of =
our time must keep some incredible chastity...
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>Dear friends,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>it's really a pleasure to join a =
new list=20
instead of the old one which really seemed to be stagnating. I think =
there were=20
some peculiar moments in the very beginning of the </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>Syndicate existence which made it so =
innovative. first,=20
people were from different countries, many from the Eastern ones, and =
the list=20
could briefly be informed on the events going on across Europe. people =
used to=20
comment in the net what we saw on TV and we had the =
immediate analytical=20
reports from the people we knew. that was especially so in the case of =
Balcanian=20
war. I remember a buhcn of Serbian guys telling what's on with the=20
bombings, and for sure always brave Melentie with his newsservice, =
etc. i=20
ever thought, why people don't simply ask and tell what's going on in =
their=20
countries on the fields of policy, arts, new media, theorism or =
whatever.=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>Net communication let us do and =
know so=20
much. i myself tried to tell the Russian realities, especially the=20
underreported ones, in my mailgetto project: political marginals, =
zines,=20
activists groups etc. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>Let me try to proceed with some =
kind of=20
report on today's Moscow in general. maybe such genre is more =
informative than=20
the announcements.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>First, nobody really expected=20
any antiglobalists to be here when promised - at the small pre-WTO =
meeting=20
early November. some TV man even woke me up early at morning calling and =
saying:=20
you're known to be an anarchist, so where're your friends, what're they =
doing=20
today? i said, no friends, let me dream about anarchy. the police =
nevertheless=20
waited for the crowds of protestants in the center of the city, in order =
to=20
protect boutiques and so on. nooone appeared. at the same time a crowd =
of 2=20
thousand skinheads were killing southern traders in the suburban area =
and no cop=20
was there. This was the the first rise of such a massive =
fascist=20
grouping, gathered of the football fans mostly. a really high =
percent of=20
Moscovites expressed their solidarity. </FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" =
size=3D2>the=20
skins say, they were going to beat antiglobalists as well if they=20
come.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>in general, Moscow's growing and =
changing=20
rapidly. the streets and especially the subway seem OVERfillled by the =
people,=20
as if it weren't able anymore to contain all of them. the city =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>now is full of luxury buildings, stores, =
hotels,=20
and sometimes you can hardly recognize a street if you weren't =
for a=20
few months there. Putin and Bush now party in Texas, and Moscow =
seems to=20
become a real globalization capital.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>after a year-long television =
obscenity=20
(after Putin's elections there were only extra-low-budget propagandist =
movies=20
about militia and Chechnya war, mexican serials, talk-shows and so=20
on) </FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>it became more or=20
less interesting again. for ex., TV-6 is a channel where the former =
NTV=20
team was thrown to. NTV belonged to Gusinsky, a central tycoon of 90s, =
and was=20
the most critical and intellectual channel until 2000, i'd say. Noone =
cares=20
about the newspapers, but TV and internet are really on the =
top. and=20
it's funny, how sometimes brave and sharply critical many journalists =
and=20
programs have become. The matter is, Putin never made any political =
repressions, as many of us expected him to do before he came. a few =
people,=20
probably the innocent ones, were put into jail and stay there, but there =
were=20
no prosecutions at all. As a leading Moscow art-critic Katya Dyogot =
said,=20
the people in the press weren't anyhow forced to serve the power, they =
did their=20
best themselves to do what the power, they supposed, would like them to =
do. it=20
lead to a real degradation of media. but now we see some new sort of the =
brave=20
media. i wouldn't praise them so much as well, but they're interesting =
as a=20
phenomenon anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>everyone now is "leftist" and all =
criticize=20
capitalism - from the coloured magazins for teenagers till the =
established TV=20
talking heads.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>some draw a sharp satire on Putin =
but never=20
say anything about what's really going on in Chechnya. People keep =
telling=20
Putin's only diplomatic victory since Sept. 11 was to make America =
forget about=20
the human rights violation in Chechnya - cause now they're getting =
violated=20
worldwide. People get really depoliticized and care about cultural =
things only.=20
that's where the media industry was really successfull and did some big =
stuff=20
last time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>a real trend during last weeks is =
a newest=20
TV-show "Behind the Glass" at TV-6 which all the russian internet =
is filled=20
with. 3 boys and 3 girls were left in an IKEA-styled flat with cameras =
in every=20
corner, and millions of people can see them eating, sleeping etc. I =
mean,=20
they're good guys - very young, progressive and so on, the girls are =
cute, and=20
the main hero, Max, has yellow-black coloured hair. They listen to =
Rammstein (by=20
the way, they gave a concert here just yesterday), Metallica and Massive =
Attack,=20
the latter, they say, saves a lot. the guys have to kick one every week =
away by=20
their own decision , though they can sell their voices on some =
TV-auction by=20
some tricky system, etc. now there're just four staying. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>finally they started to have sex =
last week.=20
Max, this hair-coloured guy, and Margo, a dancer. </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>intellectuals count the show =
for dirty and=20
stupid. Why such purism? Guys give an extreme image of what the society =
is. they=20
talk as we talk, they show what we ever knew but were afraid to confess. =
they=20
could maybe pose for a couple of days but after a week they already gave =
up=20
playing, they simply live and do their best for not to die of boredom. =
some may=20
be shocked by their extremities, but that's the play the audience and =
actors are=20
playing together. the image of a contemporary young person is finally =
shown and=20
will from now be manifested, not latent, in that society. an =
everyday-life=20
is not anymore a secret. everything's open. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>the last thing, Vladimir Sorokin, =
a very=20
famous Russian (and German) writer came to the "Behind-the-Glass" =
flat=20
yesterday and a had a talk with the heroes. (they can have one guest =
every=20
weekend, and it was Zhirinovsky the previous time) Sorokin warned them =
from=20
becoming a Soviet-sort communal community which he hates a lot. Sure, =
his friend=20
Kabakov made a whole mythology of such communal living. anyhow, Sorokin =
and=20
IKEA, Rammstein, Putin and Taliban look all =
very hip for the=20
stylish Behind-the-Glass heroes, but all and all is whirling around sex =
for=20
them. the girls talked for long whom of them Sorokin liked =
better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Cyr" size=3D2>paradoxically, such sex =
propaganda is=20
extremely popular since the very beginning of perestroika, but i haven't =
seen=20
any really sex-centered people of my age in my own surrounding. i =
suspect,=20
a true underground of our time must keep some incredible=20
chastity...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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