[spectre] To the very specialdesigner lovingdogs"auguste kitschwasser"and the site designerziehung.de

[Aliette Guibert]

Sorry, best is to try than to stay outside.
Sorry of my beggary.

European you say? but only between a good practice of the languages?

Do you really think whether it is the discriminante rule of the right to
speak in a language when we think in another language and trying to
communicate from the first one without having currently learnt of the other
one?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nebojsa Milikic" <neboya at b92.net>
To: "Aliette Guibert" <guibertc at criticalsecret.com>
Cc: "spectre" <spectre at mikrolisten.de>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [spectre] To the very specialdesigner lovingdogs"auguste
kitschwasser"and the site designerziehung.de


> Hi Aliette,
> I don't know you, I don't understand many of your messages, but I see
> your postings as ambition to communicate with people on the list... the
> problem is that you seem to write french with english words... this
> gives me hard time to decipher text... I miss Netochka beacuse her/his
> coded postings were fun, not charged with an utmost importance like
> yours...
>
> For example, this was nice as a verse, it probably refered to my
> previous message, but I didn't understand it at all : (
>
> Ununited-united August has removed by himself
> the black forgery thanks of my largest demand
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Aliette Guibert wrote:
>
> >Apologizes for my mistakes in English
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Aliette Guibert" <guibertc at criticalsecret.com>
> >To: "Nebojsa Milikic" <neboya at b92.net>
> >Cc: "nettime-fr-raw" <nettime-fr-raw at anart.no>; "spectre"
> ><spectre at mikrolisten.de>
> >Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:50 PM
> >Subject: Re: [spectre] To the very special designer lovingdogs"auguste
> >kitschwasser" and the site designerziehung.de
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Ok the problem is over now. Ununited-united August has removed by
himself
> >>the black forgery thanks of my largest demand. When the problems so
adjust
> >>in fraternal communications instead of resorting to the repression,
lists
> >>naturally double their reason for being. Thanks to the eyes of the
list -
> >>and to ununited-united August to have answerred without delay (I hope of
> >>
> >>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>radical answer everywhere - till the serach machine).
> >>
> >>There is no more problem.
> >>
> >>In matter of which this situation approves of a good solution front of a
> >>problem to be resolved it soon and between us.
> >>
> >>A.
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Nebojsa Milikic" <neboya at b92.net>
> >>Cc: "spectre" <spectre at mikrolisten.de>
> >>Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:32 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [spectre] To the very special designer loving dogs"auguste
> >>kitschwasser" and the site designerziehung.de
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>...Netochka... sometimes I miss her...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Aliette Guibert wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>       I had not noticed what concerned me as manageress of the
> >>>>publications of ciritcalsecret in your links.
> >>>>
> >>>>There is a cut up in your site where the manifeste appears signed by
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >all
> >
> >
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>authors from the homepage of criticalsecret. Then more you have sent
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >this
> >
> >
> >>>>links to all the lists and right now it is in all the search engines,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>more
> >>
> >>
> >>>>you have sent emails everywhere to show it, particularly to certain
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>authors
> >>
> >>
> >>>>of criticalsecret.
> >>>>
> >>>>The reality is that this text has never been signed by anyone for
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>instance
> >>
> >>
> >>>>it is of a collective pseudoname. It was never submitted to signing
on.
> >>>>Nobody has never signed this text even me - I have not! the objective
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >was
> >
> >
> >>>>not of a true manifesto, the objective was to create an event to call
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >for
> >
> >
> >>>>another reflexion. Every one is free and so I do myself. I am not a
> >>>>militant. I am a conscious citizen with radical ideas who do not run
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>topower
> >>
> >>
> >>>>nor cops. I am a cognitive art curator by a way as an artist myself to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>hand
> >>
> >>
> >>>>my free job.
> >>>>
> >>>>       I have just received at the moment this mail (quoted below) of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >an
> >
> >
> >>>>author who ever well friendly does not certainly appreciate to be
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>supposed
> >>
> >>
> >>>>to be for somebody who would have signed this manifesto No, which
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>manifesto,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>furthermore, concerns not at all criticalsecret (it was not published
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >by
> >
> >
> >>>>criticalsecret either in the site nor forthere of this name or my name
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>>>mageress of this publication).
> >>>>
> >>>>I indicate you that within the framework of the French law, as
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >manageress
> >
> >
> >>of
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the publications of a company of Press publishing, I can pass in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >justice
> >
> >
> >>if
> >>
> >>
> >>>>I do not give the concrete proof that I have followed a legal protocol
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>lodged against a forgery which creates a damage to people with whom I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>work.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>I am not as an anti-racist-organization which has just recovered from
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >it
> >
> >
> >>to
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the cops and judges of the mondial law on the digital economy to ask
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >for
> >
> >
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>deletion of a Nazi site in United States, as a matter of fact is to
act
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>precedent of a justification in a villainous law which nobody among us
> >>>>accepts for another hand.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>       I am not a cop and have no appeal to the cops, because I fight
> >>>>against the repression.
> >>>>
> >>>>Notably in the current climate where the life of people deceives (my
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>Italian
> >>
> >>
> >>>>friends for example).
> >>>>
> >>>>BUT at once I ask you to get out of your site without delay these
pages
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>more to ask to the webmasters of the search machines to get them
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>disappaared
> >>
> >>
> >>>>to give me the concrete immediate proofs that it is done.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks in adv
> >>>>
> >>>>Aliete Guibert Certhoux
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>From: "auguste kitschwasser" <tilman at onomastik.de>
> >>>>To: <kfor at anart.no>; <thing-frankfurt at yahoogroups.de>;
> >>>><nettime-fr-raw at anart.no>
> >>>>Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:00 AM
> >>>>Subject: [nettime-fr-raw] nsk #3may05
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>neue schkeuditzer kunst
> >>>>>#3may05
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>POUR UN CERTAIN GEERT IMPUR ET SANS PARTI
> >>>>>CONTRE L'EUROPE FRANKENSTEIN
> >>>>>
> >>>>>/www/archive
> >>>>>/www/sound_museum
> >>>>>/www/textz
> >>>>>/www/submissions
> >>>>>/www/videodrome
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://designerziehung.de/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>From: Aymeric Vergnon-d'Alançon
> >>>>To: Aliette Guibert
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:57 PM
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Bonjour Aliette,
> >>>>
> >>>>Je viens de voir un site http://designerziehung.de/ qui publie un
texte
> >>>>appelant à voter non à l'Europe et les signataires semblent être pour
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >une
> >
> >
> >>>>bonne part issus des auteurs Criticalsecret. N'ayant pas signé ce
texte
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>je
> >>
> >>
> >>>>m'en étonne et vous le signale. J'espère que vous allez bien.
> >>>>
> >>>>Très cordialement
> >>>>Aymeric
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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