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<span class=""><div class="" style="display:inline">Interested, but more in how to make a better experience, than necessarily concentrating on ratings. </div></span></div><div class="" style="font-size:14px;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:10px">
<span class=""><div class="" style="display:inline">like <a href="http://hackdaymanifesto.com/">http://hackdaymanifesto.com/</a> maybe a manifesto something like this for art events. </div></span></div><div class="" style="font-size:14px;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:10px">
<span class=""><div class="" style="display:inline"><br></div></span></div><div class="" style="font-size:14px;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:10px">On promotordb found the guys/developers fb page and this is what he says 4 days ago...wonder if he needs/wants help? </div>
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<span class=""><div class="" style="display:inline">--------------from his fb page</div></span></div><div class="" style="font-size:14px;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:10px"><span class=""><div id="id_538de4ca929181e64406671" class="" style="display:inline">
Just an update for those who are awaiting authorization for<a href="http://www.promoterdb.com/" rel="nofollow nofollow" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none">www.promoterdb.com</a> - I'm working really hard on trying to manage this, I did not expect such an massive massive interest so suddenly. I'm going to be opening it up slowly over the <span class="" style="display:inline">next few days... tomorrow I'll open the discussion area as there are some issues I need to address and just can't manage as a one person team with everything else I have on. Once we figure out the best way to manage submissions/ratings/reviews I will open up the submission area.<br>
<br>It also raises a lot of interesting ethic/moral issues for me, I am unhappy that promoters don't have their say on the development on this so I'd like that to happen somehow before we move ahead (if we move ahead, I might pull the plug or pass it on if it gets too much).<br>
<br>I don't want to be caught in the middle of anything, I just have the skill set to create this, but perhaps not the time.<br><br>Stand by</span></div></span></div></div><div class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.909090995788574px;line-height:12.799999237060547px">
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</div></a></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Jaromil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaromil@dyne.org" target="_blank">jaromil@dyne.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Tue, 03 Jun 2014, Brian Degger wrote:<br>
<br>
> Site Offline<br>
><br>
</div>> Due to an influx in popularity [1]<a href="http://www.promoterdb.com" target="_blank">www.promoterdb.com</a> is temporarily<br>
<div class="">> offline while we re-assess how things are managed and where the<br>
> site is heading. There has been a lot of contact and opinions given<br>
> about this site, so we have decided to pull it offline until we<br>
> have time to create a medium where people can discuss it's future<br>
> and functionality.<br>
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</div>wow. interesting.<br>
<br>
I think their idea is very good.<br>
hope someone can keep it up.<br>
<br>
Brian, should we start a project like this? :^)<br>
we could think of running a db, but just for Europe...<br>
<br>
OTOH I reiterate my doubts about such an axiomatic approach to labour<br>
politics to be any better than actual unionism, but the rationality of<br>
neo-liberism is asking its toll here.<br>
<br>
good luck rating the content aggregators!<br>
<br>
p.s. (and thanks for replying. cultural operators announce lists feel<br>
rather Kafkian at times)<br>
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> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Jaromil <[2]<a href="mailto:jaromil@dyne.org">jaromil@dyne.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> dear Spectres,<br>
><br>
> some years ago (most people here might have forgotten anyway) I've<br>
> lamented my bad experience in contributing to the Piksel media art<br>
> festival in Bergen. At that time I thought of proposing a guideline of<br>
> sorts and hoped in the birth of some kind of unionism for all those of<br>
> us who are content producers and end up being milked and thrown away by<br>
> aggregators of sorts. I'm sure many of you out there have to go through<br>
> such experiences.<br>
><br>
</div>> Today I've found this [3]<a href="http://www.promoterdb.com" target="_blank">http://www.promoterdb.com</a><br>
<div class="im HOEnZb">> which might be of some interest.<br>
><br>
> I'm not sure if this will work as expected and I'm not affiliated with<br>
> it in any way. However it might be interesting to experiment, filling in<br>
> some feedback about the good experiences at least.<br>
><br>
> >From a unionist perspective it is somehow sad that the overall decay of<br>
> labour based relationships within content producers and art institutions<br>
> have lead to resort to such disgregating and passive methods.<br>
> But then what else?<br>
><br>
> Are on-line rating systems the place-holder for labour unions in a<br>
> neo-lib world?<br>
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