<div dir="ltr"><font face="georgia, serif"><font size="6"><b><font color="#ff00ff"><a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en" target="_blank">Radio Web MACBA</a> - Most listened podcasts January 2022</font></b><br></font><font size="4"><br></font></font><div><font face="georgia, serif"><font size="4" color="#ff00ff"><b>1- <a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en/specials/objecthood-8">Andrea Ballestero</a>: "If you dig enough space in an underground mine, you can put workers there to extract things. If you have enough knowledge you can explore a cave and move through it, even under ocean caves, etcetera. The aquifer precludes that. You can never inhabit an aquifer. And I really find that an important trait and a fascinating material challenge for our own thinking. Spaces that are not at our disposal. Humans should not be everywhere. And aquifers remind us of that. If a human is in an aquifer, then it’s not an aquifer anymore."</b></font><br><br><font size="4">In <a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en/specials/objecthood-8">OBJECTHOOD #8,</a> Roc Jiménez de Cisneros, Andrea Ballestero and Chris Korda reflect on limits. A quite dark and urgent take on boundaries and edges, if you will. This is not so much about ontological boundaries, but rather about the dangers of looking at the world with no limits in mind. With music by Jessica Ekomane</font></font><div><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif" size="4">Link: <a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en/specials/objecthood-8" target="_blank">https://rwm.macba.cat/en/specials/<span class="gmail-il">objecthood</span>-<span class="gmail-il">8</span></a><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90)"><br></span></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(90,90,90)"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><br></font></span></div><div><div><font face="georgia, serif" size="4">2-  <font color="#ff00ff" style="font-style:inherit;font-variant-ligatures:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-weight:inherit"><b> </b></font><b style="font-style:inherit;font-variant-ligatures:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;color:rgb(255,0,255)"><a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/sonia-303-oyeronke-oyewumi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">Professor Oyèwùmi:</a> <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit">"Part of what I am doing is to historicize how gender became important in the colonies as the result of the fact that the colonizers brought their ideas about gender. That is the crook of the matter."</span></b></font></div><div style="color:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit"><b style="color:rgb(255,0,255)"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><br></font></b></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><font color="#000000"><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;box-sizing:border-box;display:inline"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit;box-sizing:border-box"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit;box-sizing:border-box"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit;box-sizing:border-box"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit;box-sizing:border-box"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:inherit;box-sizing:border-box"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseli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h)</span></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif" color="#000000" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif" color="#000000" size="4">Charlamos con Maria <span class="gmail-il">Ptqk</span> sobre las posibles alianzas metodológicas entre el arte y la ciencia. Indagamos en sus últimos años de investigaciones, cristalizados en la exposición “Ciencia Fricción. Vida entre especies compañeras” pero también en otras encarnaciones y proyectos. Revisamos la dimensión narrativa del conocimiento científico, vía Donna Haraway, así como las relaciones simbióticas entre organismos interdependientes, de la mano de Lynn Margulis.<br><br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif" color="#000000" size="4">Link: <a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/es/sonia/sonia-341-maria-ptqk" target="_blank">https://rwm.macba.cat/es/sonia/sonia-341-maria-<span class="gmail-il">ptqk</span></a></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><span style="color:inherit">5- </span><b style="font-style:inherit;font-variant-ligatures:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;color:rgb(255,0,255)"><a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/sonia-148-mark-fisher-mark-fisher" target="_blank">Mark <span class="gmail-il">Fisher</span>:</a> "<span style="white-space:pre-wrap">As a result of the decomposition of older forms of solidarity, people are made to be increasingly responsible for themselves, or made to feel as if they are responsible for themselves. In the UK now, the complaint that’s most treated by the National Health Service is depression. Depression is a political problem."</span></b></font></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><br></font></span></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">This podcast is the result of a conversation with </span><a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/sonia-148-mark-fisher-mark-fisher" target="_blank">Mark <span class="gmail-il">Fisher</span> </a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">in 2012 on crisis, insurrection, and the dangerous idea of capitalism as the only conceivable container.</span></font></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><br></font></span></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Link: </span><a href="https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/sonia-148-mark-fisher-mark-fisher" target="_blank">https://rwm.macba.cat/en/sonia/sonia-148-mark-<span class="gmail-il">fisher</span>-mark-<span class="gmail-il">fisher</span></a></font></div></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><b style="color:rgb(255,0,255);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:xx-large">E/N/J/O/Y!</b><br></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><b style="color:rgb(255,0,255);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:xx-large">TAKE CARE!</b></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>