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    Hello everyone,<br>
    <br>
    Maybe it is good to have the point of view of some political groups
    in Ukraine and Russia.<br>
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    Here is an article from some anti anti-authoritarian ukrainian
    groups that is two weeks old:<br>
<a href="https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-authoritarian-perspectives-in-ukraine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-authoritarian-perspectives-in-ukraine</a><br>
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    Here is one by russian anarchists, updated one week ago.<br>
<a href="https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/26/russian-anarchists-on-resisting-the-invasion-of-ukraine-updates-and-analysis" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://en.crimethinc.com/2022/02/26/russian-anarchists-on-resisting-the-invasion-of-ukraine-updates-and-analysis</a><br>
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    They really helped me to understand the political situation!<br>
    Best,<br>
    n<br>
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    PS : forgive me if these were already posted here.<br>
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    <div>Le 02/03/2022 à 11:48, Spyros Boukas a
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        Hi everyone, <br>
        <br>
        I would like to share some thoughts that I have had since last
        week.
        <div>I apologize in advance for my English :) <br>
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          This is a world war that didn’t start last week.
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            It has started many years ago.</div>
          <div>  <br>
            It has started straight after the end of the ‘’cold war’’
            that was not cold at all.</div>
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            It started with the first Gulf War in 1990, were the western
            Alliances attacked Iraq. </div>
          <div>And it continued with the occupation and destruction of
            many eastern countries since then. </div>
          <div>But in western countries and western media this was not a
            problem, because we were the ones that were bombing.</div>
          <div>And because the dead people were Muslims.</div>
          <div><br>
            In 1995 there was a massacre in Kosovo, the biggest massacre
            after the second world war, in which all the European
            countries took part, by their silence. </div>
          <div>And still, this was not a problem, because the dead
            people were Muslims. Here in Greece, the media were saying
            that the people were bombing their city by themselves </div>
          <div>because they were fanatic Muslims (the same ideology that
            continued with the second war in Iraq)<br>
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            Now that the country that is attacking is not a western
            country, it is called war.</div>
          <div>As if previously we were having peace in the world.</div>
          <div>  <br>
            In Ukraine from 2014 there is a war and since then, 14000
            people have died. </div>
          <div>If we look back when this started, we can see that this
            is something that was pushed from the western countries back
            then. </div>
          <div>By sending weapons and supporting the para-military of
            Ukraine and helping to establish a Fascist regime that
            oppresses the people and the working class of Ukraine </div>
          <div>and forwards neonazi ideologies and practices.</div>
          <div>  <br>
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            As the global Capitalistic crisis rises more and more, the
            war probably will come closer to us. <br>
            But whenever the Bosses of this world are making wars to
            compete for their geopolitical thirst and capitalism
            expansion, we are the ones who always die...</div>
          <div>  <br>
            As the war expands, our personal or collective dilemmas for
            participation for sure will get stronger. </div>
          <div>We should not join any National flag. We should fight in
            our countries against their participation in any war, </div>
          <div>because we will be the victims of something that we only
            have to lose. </div>
          <div>We have to lose our friends and beloved people’s lives or
            even our lives.<br>
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            We won’t fight for anyone. </div>
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          <div>Peace among the people, War among the Classes.</div>
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            Together with the Oppressed people of Ukraine who are
            fighting against this war.</div>
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            Together with the Oppressed and arrested people of Russia,
            who are fighting against this war.</div>
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          PM Lanfranco Aceti <<a href="mailto:lanfranco.aceti@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">lanfranco.aceti@gmail.com</a>>
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                21, 2021</b> <a href="https://www.cato.org/commentary/time-cure-americas-clientitis-over-ukraine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.cato.org/commentary/time-cure-americas-clientitis-over-ukraine</a></div>
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              Andreas, and everyone else, I hope you are well... Nice to
              see that you still can keep this unruly flock to toe the
              red line.... :)))) </div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">I hope
              you will enjoy the links. I do not approve or disapprove
              of the Cato Institute, I just find their writing very
              telling of a US mindset and liked the fact that these
              opinions were voiced almost a year ago. </div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This
              clarification is in case someone would want to accuse me
              of being a puppet or client of the Cato Institute. By the
              way, to be a client one should have been paid something.
              Unfortunately, I haven't. :))))) (For those who might
              misunderstand, I would like to alert you to the fact that
              this paragraph is a sarcasm, including the present
              disclaimer.)</div>
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                                                          <div><font size="4" face="georgia,
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                                                          Curator, and <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Academic</span></span></font></div>
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                                                          Sinking to
                                                          Surrender</i>, </span>Venice<span> Architecture</span> Biennale<span>,
                                                          2021</span></div>
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                                                          <div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><i>Tools
                                                          for Catching
                                                          Clouds</i> <a href="https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/tools-for-catching-clouds/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/tools-for-catching-clouds/</a></div>
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                                                          <div><span><i>Preferring
                                                          Sinking to
                                                          Surrender</i>,
                                                          Part I <a href="https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-i/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-i/</a> </span><br>
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                                                          <span><i>Preferring
                                                          Sinking to
                                                          Surrender</i>,
                                                          Part II <a href="https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-ii/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/preferring-sinking-to-surrender-part-ii/</a></span></div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><span><i>Sacred
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                                                          <div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><i>Le
                                                          Schiavone</i> <a href="https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/le-schiavone/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/le-schiavone/</a></div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><span><i>Orthós</i> <a href="https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/orthos/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/portfolio-items/orthos/</a>  </span></div>
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                                                          <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="georgia,
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                                                          Aceti <a href="http://www.lanfrancoaceti.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.lanfrancoaceti.com</a><br>
                                                          Director and
                                                          Founder, MoCC <a href="http://www.museumofcontemporarycuts.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.museumofcontemporarycuts.org</a><br>
                                                          Editor in
                                                          Chief LEA, MIT
                                                          Press <a href="http://www.leoalmanac.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.leoalmanac.org</a> <br>
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              1:50 PM Andreas Broeckmann <<a href="mailto:ab@mikro.in-berlin.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ab@mikro.in-berlin.de</a>>
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              please, refrain from personal insults; it's one of the
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              this co-moderator and co-list-owner draws.<br>
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                                Architect-Engineer [2011], </span></font><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)"><font size="1">National Technical
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