[spectre] crosspost: film-philosophy list

[philip pocock]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------363625CE63C49D9C61B7511B
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

p2p  is working well for albeit distanced video and audio documents from
nyc. no phone to my relatives in lower manhattan from germany possible.
web news urls jammed sporadically. still email is getting through.


at least 500 islamic websites hosted by texas-based infocom were taken
down by the fbi's anti-terror force 07.09 . [source:
reader-list@sarai.net]

many others i am trying to locate are 404, or hacked, one - a satellite
news agency www.al-jazirah.com/newsj.html  - crashed my machine after
severe blinking.


apologies for this crossposting to those already reading the
film-philosophy list.
___________________________________________
___________________________________________

--------------363625CE63C49D9C61B7511B
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

Return-Path: <owner-film-philosophy@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Received: from jiscmail.ac.uk ([130.246.192.48]) by mailin06.sul.t-online.de
	with esmtp id 15gvd5-1R6we8c; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:03:39 +0200
Received: from jiscmail (jiscmail.ac.uk) by jiscmail.ac.uk (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <9.0007880E@jiscmail.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:03:37 +0100
Received: from JISCMAIL.AC.UK by JISCMAIL.AC.UK (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d)
          with spool id 6175176 for FILM-PHILOSOPHY@JISCMAIL.AC.UK; Tue, 11 Sep
          2001 23:03:36 +0100
Received: from ori.rl.ac.uk by jiscmail.ac.uk (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with
          SMTP id <0.0013E7F1@jiscmail.ac.uk>; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:03:10 +0100
Received: from hotmail.com (f111.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.111]) by
          ori.rl.ac.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8BM9FX10262 for
          <FILM-PHILOSOPHY@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:09:15 +0100
Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue,
          11 Sep 2001 15:03:02 -0700
Received: from 64.153.141.90 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11
          Sep 2001 22:01:59 GMT
X-Originating-IP: [64.153.141.90]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2001 22:03:02.0738 (UTC)
                       FILETIME=[86ED0B20:01C13B0D]
Message-ID:  <F1114eiz30GBHXNYixB0000f359@hotmail.com>
Date:         Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:03:36 +0100
Reply-To:     Film-Philosophy Salon <FILM-PHILOSOPHY@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Sender:       Film-Philosophy Salon <FILM-PHILOSOPHY@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
From:         Sean Delgado <seandelgado@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: News Alert: Second Plane Crashes Into World Trade Center
Comments: To: dbacchusman@hotmail.com, Bobhoppenworth@aol.com,
          caylenclark@hotmail.com, charityrawlings@hotmail.com,
          DSettani@techlawinc.com, dbenningho@yahoo.com,
          dawnmanners@hotmail.com, dramser@cfi-hollywood.com,
          dewalt@earthlink.net, dguest@usc.edu, dilaney@earthlink.net,
          stedi2@aol.com, doughaxall@earthlink.net, DyFries@aol.com,
          ellingston@hotmail.com, filmfederation@hotmail.com,
          filmkat@hotmail.com, roxyrolles@yahoo.com, fever@earthlink.net,
          hshorts@pacbell.net, intrusivefilms@usa.net,
          jandykstra@earthlink.net, topjimmyking@yahoo.com,
          q360com@pacbell.net, jdrgonzalezzzz@hotmail.com,
          kateclarke@yahoo.com, kubrick-discussion@egroups.com,
          Lauren.Cotugno@unisys.com, lorenda3@yahoo.com,
          BRUEN@worldnet.att.net, MICHAEL.TEDESCO@ca.com, mngwala@startec.net,
          michaelmundy@worldnet.att.net, nationaldynamite@yahoo.com,
          nesdon@earthlink.net, nolanpielak@hotmail.com, pbruen@ctgla.org,
          pinkypervis@hotmail.com, rgnovey@aol.com, ryanwiley@msn.com,
          Ryanfilms@earthlink.net, ryanwiley@mindspring.com,
          Shannah@ix.netcom.com, SHessels@upn13.com, SoHoShark@aol.com,
          st3rules@hotmail.com, sturla@pacbell.net, tango@flashcom.net,
          Webcinema@lists.ironclad.net.au
To:           FILM-PHILOSOPHY@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000

the faceless face...

these are the stories that set the character of the people we try to
entertain and enlighten with our stories.

these are the people and what they do in crisis, that determine the
character of our humanity.

what could you do when they enlighten you, when they teach you, what it is
to be alive?

the firemen, holding hands to cover all ground, walked through the black
smoke, when one found a person they dropped back and several others took
their space and continued...  they never came back...  thousands...

the policeman who came out of the black smoke and directed confused people
to an underground subway station for protection.  He saved them, then
dissappeared into the falling rubble of tower 2...

the clerk, a little guy from data entry, who ran back and forth pulling
those from the debris, finally when relieved by the police, fell over from
exhaustion, hes a bigger man than most...

The woman, with a small office accross the street, opened her door and
became greater than any nurse in history, nameless, faceless, covered with
blood she gave life...

those who ran back.  those who saw.  those who were there.  what can you say
to such knowledge?  knowledge that is greater than god.  greater than
politics.

you think you know poverty?  you know hardship?  this is a world thing, its
in the USA as well as Somalia.  the US has a bigger `media blanket', thats
all.  drive this country.  see the poverty.  you think you're alone.  some
think the USA is something and its not.

I was in Spain and a kid told me he wished he was poor in the US, I told him
I wished I was poor in Spain...

you know nothing.  humanity will prevail.  this will only bring us closer to
a united world, without divisions.

I am hungry, I can't pay my rent.  I'll be on the street.  I'll live.

I am a christian a muslim a hindu and a jew.  and so are all of you.  when
you bring fear into the hearts of your sisters and brothers, shame on you,
shame on you.

down with countries.  down with religion.  down with what divides you.  you
think this is a dream?

imagine.

_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

--------------363625CE63C49D9C61B7511B--