[spectre] THEAUSTRIANABSTRACTS

Tue Sep 26 15:18:14 CEST 2006

Marc, I am just disappointed with the reaction of the art world in the 5 
years after 9/11.

And it is not about "art" in general, but about more or less "famous 
art", that made it into newspapers etc.

There is probably a lot of "good" street art, London etc, and I probably 
did not search the web enough, but there has not been a "wave" of such 
"good art", which one should expect after 9/11 and the U.S. etc reaction.

Besides Botero, who was, surprise, surprise, given his bad reputation in 
"modern art" circles, not so bad, he had a clear message and knew how to 
say it, I found only

http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/glib.jpg

impressiv. Maybe it is not so impressiv anymore, very simple, targetted 
at some early rhetorics, that more or less nobody believes anymore, but 
such simple statements are important.

Net art, maybe I was to harsh, maybe not "bad", but it could have been 
much, much better IMHO.

Ok, "good art" says something important, "bad art" is boring.

H.

marc wrote:
> Hi Heiko,
>
> Isn't using a term such as 'bad art' a bit of a generalisation - a bit 
> 20th century? I know that wars are back in fashion now, but surely 
> such words as these are just no longer needed to describe contemporary 
> art. Langauge has moved on now...
>
> Perhaps, Armin may have a point.
>
> If you are saying that there has only been "5 years of bad art after 
> 9/11", then may be you have not been looking at much of the work that 
> has been made in that time. Or perhaps you are not interested in 
> contemporary creativity, for some personal reason.
>
> If we are playing the binary game though - here's one to chew on:
> -would a conservative prefer 'abstract art' or 'political art', which 
> one do you think that individual would go for?
>
> Personally, I enjoy some abstract works - but I am also very 
> interested in net art and (new) media art. I find many of the 
> questions that have been proposed, coming out of such works to be 
> aesthetically imaginative and intellectually challenging. I have been 
> working with many people in this area, teaching it at Universities and 
> working with others (peers) at our studios in London. And to be 
> honest, many of the people that I have had the privelage to work with 
> not only posses a creative understanding that critically engages in 
> exploring beyond 'modernist' and canon-like values, but are also able 
> to shift and split paradigms apart, with the issues put forward in 
> their work that was unimaginable before, with content, context. not 
> forgetting social awareness., and the of course the technology used 
> for its crafting...
>
> This surely cannot be as you say - 'brain.dead'. I think that you must 
> be talking about something very different like our governemnts...
>
> all the best...
>
> marc garrett.
>
> p.s.
>
> guess this song:
>
> I've been patient, I've been good, tried to keep my hands on the table
> It's gettin' hard this holdin' back, you know what I mean
> I'm sure you'll understand my point of view, we know each other mentally
> You gotta know that you're bringin' out the artist in me
>
> CHORUS
> Let's get critical, critical, I wanna get critical, let's get into 
> critical
> Let me hear your network talk, your network talk, let me hear your 
> network talk...
>
>
>> Indeed, "5 years of bad art after 9/11" comes to mind.
>>
>> It is incredible, that the ONLY convincing internationally known 
>> political art against Abu Graib etc is by good old Botero, who is 
>> believed to paint for society ladies. Maybe he was never unpolitical 
>> with his fat officers etc.
>>
>> Net.art seems to be brain.dead,
>>
>> H.
>>
>> Armin Medosch wrote:
>>
>>> 100 years after futurism and 50 years after American abstract and 
>>> minimalism accusations against art mysticism and a-political 
>>> formalism  which have been raised then are only ever more evident 
>>> now. abstract --> retreat into 'pure' form instrumentalized by neo-
>>> conservative government for the construction of nationalist cultural 
>>> identity as export commodity.
>>>
>>> resist!
>>> Armin Medosch
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 06, at 14:08, Oliver Grau wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> THEAUSTRIANABSTRACTS
>>>> 23TH SEP TO 15TH OCT 2006
>>>>
>>>> ARTI ET AMICITIAE, ROKIN 112, 1012 LB AMSTERDAM
>>>> OPENING: 22TH SEP 2006, 7 P.M.
>>>> OPENING PERFORMANCE: NTSC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The exhibition presents 27 Austrian-based artists dealing with  
>>>> abstraction in different styles and media. The show is divided 
>>>> into  three, interrelated sections: an exhibition hall featuring a  
>>>> "classical" compilation of paintings, photographs and  
>>>> installations; a cinema showing digital videos; and a lounge  
>>>> hosting a variety of computer-based works.
>>>>
>>>> Exhibition: Gregor Eldarb, Franz Gebetsberger, Margit Hartnagel,  
>>>> Sabina Hörtner, Lotte Lyon, Günther Selichar, Esther Stocker,  
>>>> Gerold Tagwerkerker
>>>> Videos: Tina Frank, Karoe Goldt, Michaela Grill, Dariusz Kowalski,  
>>>> m.ash, Maia Gusberti, reMI, Billy Roisz, Michaela Schwentner, Nik  
>>>> Thönen/Timo Novotny
>>>> Computerbased works: [n:ja], Gerhard Daurer, dextro, Andres 
>>>> Ramirez  Gaviria, Lia, Pfaffenbichler/Schreiber, tinhoko
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theaustrianabstracts.net (full version will be online 
>>>> sep 15th)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.arti.nl
>>>>
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