[spectre] Listening to Leonardo podcasts!

[Annick2]

Dear Friends and Colleagues,

The series of podcasts on the Leonardo "Creative 
Disturbance" platform is growing everyday. Find below an 
update of what has been released on Audiolats and its 
associated channels ((Meta-Life, Pioneers&Pathbreakers, 
Virtual Africa, Space Art & Culture). According to the 
philosophy of Creative Disturbance, those podcasts can be in 
many different languages, therefore the short descriptions 
below will not be translated. Enjoy!

Best

Annick



META-LIFE
http://creativedisturbance.org/channel/meta-life/

●    Viralité et Numéricité (20 min) - Thierry Bardini, Yvan 
Tina
Longtemps considéré comme une entité semi-vivante, inerte et 
active, molécule et organisme à la fois, ou au contraire, 
rien de tout cela, le virus est aujourd’hui envisagé comme 
un agent essentiel à l’évolution de la vie chez les êtres 
vivants. Retour avec Thierry Bardini sur l’actualité de 
cette figure de l’écologie symbiotique, à l’intersection des 
mondes numériques et biologiques.

●    Scénographies du vivant (14 min) - Roger Malina, Yvan Tina
Peut-on (ou plutôt comment) penser le théâtre, la danse et 
les arts de la performance à l’ère des biotechnologies, de 
l’ingénierie du vivant et de l’émergence de formes de vie 
artificielles ? Roger Malina et Yvan Tina proposent un 
rapide tour d’horizon de ces pratiques, entre arts et 
techno-sciences, qui ouvrent de nouvelles avenues dans le 
champ de la représentation.

●    Parallels and Contrasts between Artificial Life and 
Computer Art (13 min) - Frieder Nake, Yvan Tina
Although they both involve generative algorithms, randomness 
and computational processes (among other principles), the 
art of artificial life is not considered a part of the 
computer art forms as described by pioneering computer 
artist Frieder Nake. Yvan Tina sits down with Nake to 
briefly discuss some of the intertwining issues between the 
two fields.

●    Poétiques et politiques du DIY bio (19 min) - Morgan 
Meyer, Yvan Tina
Le Biohacking ou “Do-It-Yourself (DIY) biology”, s’affirme 
depuis 6 ans comme un mouvement singulier du génie 
biologique non seulement en raison de la courverture 
médiatique dont il fait l’objet, mais aussi à cause de 
l’intérêt artistique qu’il suscite (voir l’exposition 
“Bioacking: Do-It-Yourself” organisé au Medical Museion de 
Copenhague en 2013-2014). Le titre de ce podcast renvoit à 
l’article de Morgan Meyer paru dans “Meta-Life. 
Biotechnologies, Synthetic Biology, A Life and the Arts”, 
Leonardo ebook series, MIT Press, 2014.

●    Synthetic Biology: Creating or Constructing Life ? (11 
min) - Sophia Roosth, Poe Johnson
In her book “Synthetic: How Life Got Made”, science 
historian Sophia Roosth investigates the field of Synthetic 
Biology in which life and computer scientists advance new 
definitions of life by manufacturing it from scratch.

●    De l’appropriation du vivant dans l’art contemporain 
(18 min) - Camille Prunet, Yvan Tina
A travers les représentations de l’humain, de l’animal et du 
végétal, Camille Prunet intérroge dans sa thèse le 
traitement plastique du vivant dans les oeuvres 
biotechnologiques. L’occasion de nous entretenir sur les 
frontières et les limites de cette notion, les tendances de 
l’art contemporain et les enjeux de réception et de 
production de ces formes.


PIONEERS AND PATHBREAKERS
http://creativedisturbance.org/channel/pioneers-and-pathbreakers/
●    The Work and Legacy of Liliane Lijn, Part 1 (19 min) - 
Liliane Lijn, Bronac Ferran, Fabrice Lapelletrie
Artist Liliane Lijn sits down with Fabrice Lapelletrie and 
Bronac Ferran to discuss the intent and influences behind 
her contributions to kinetic art.

●    The Work and Legacy of Liliane Lijn, Part 2 (16 min) - 
Liliane Lijn, Bronac Ferran, Fabrice Lapelletrie
Bronac Ferran and Fabrice Lapelletrie continue picking the 
brain of artist Liliane Lijn. Here, Lijn offers her opinions 
on classifying her own artwork, collaboration with fellow 
artists, and inspirations that led to some of her more 
unique creations.

●    The Work and Legacy of Liliane Lijn, Part 3 (18 min) - 
Liliane Lijn, Bronac Ferran, Fabrice Lapelletrie
In this final part of Creative Disturbance’s featured 
discussion on and with artist Liliane Lijn, the conversation 
moves to Lijn’s take on the artistic atmosphere during the 
volatile ’60s and her fifty-year-long legacy as a pioneer in 
kinetic art.

●    Emergence in Generative, Algorithmic Art (11 min) - 
Frieder Nake, Charissa Terranova
Charissa Terranova and Frieder Nake converse about 
algorithmic aesthetics, generative form, and emergence.

●    Algorithms and the State of Postmodern Art (16 min) - 
Frieder Nake, Poe Johnson
Frieder Nake and Poe Johnson discuss the ways that 
algorithms have altered the creation and reception of art 
from the 1960s to the present.

●    Modern Art’s Unsung Pioneer: Gadney on Malina, Part 1 
(15 min) - Reg Gadney, Fabrice Lapelletrie, Bronac Ferran
Fabrice Lapelletrie speaks with artist and writer Reg Gadney 
about his introduction to engineer/artist Frank Malina, his 
relationships with Malina and famed Hungarian artist Nicolas 
Schöffer, and his opinions on artistic criticism.

●    Modern Art’s Unsung Pioneer: Gadney on Malina, Part 2 
(9 min) - Reg Gadney, Fabrice Lapelletrie, Bronac Ferran
Reg Gadney continues his conversation with Fabrice 
Lapelletrie, specifically addressing his personal insights 
into Frank Malina’s artistic method, work ethic, and legacy 
in the context of 21st century collaborations between the 
arts and technology.

●    Modern Art’s Unsung Pioneer: Gadney on Malina, Part 3 
(12 min) - Reg Gadney, Fabrice Lapelletrie, Bronac Ferran
Bronac Ferran and Reg Gadney discuss the latter’s decision 
to first begin writing about kinetic art, the 
cross-pollination of art influences during the 1950s and 
1960s, and kinetic art’s (and Frank Malina’s) critical and 
economic status among the visual and literary arts.

●    The Overlap Between Humanists and Scientists (11 min) - 
Sean B. Carroll, Charissa Terranova
Charissa Terranova talks to Sean B Carroll about overlaps in 
practices between humanists and scientists and his book 
Brave Genius, focusing on Albert Camus and Jacques Monod.


VIRTUAL AFRICA
http://creativedisturbance.org/channel/virtual-africa/
●    Présentation de la Plateforme RAMI au Liban (19 min) - 
Claudine Dussolier, Abdo Nawar, Ricardo Mbarkho, Yvan Tina
Claudine Dussolier, Abdo Nawar et Ricardo Mbarkho nous 
parlent de leur prochain livre et de la plateforme RAMI 
(Rencontres Arts et Multimédia Internationales) qui 
développe depuis une dizaine d’années des projets d’échanges 
internationaux en Afrique du nord et dans le bassin 
méditerranéen.

●    The Intertwining Construction of Blackness (22 min) - 
Edleeca Thompson, Poe Johnson
Edleeca Thompson and Poe Johnson explore how art and science 
construct the embodiment of the Black image through the lens 
of history, art, sports, and film.

●    Rencontre avec Mohamed Youssef (15 min) - Claudine 
Dussolier, Mohamed Youssef (podcast en Arabe, Anglais et 
Français)
A Podcast with Mohamed H.Youssef, an independent Egyptian 
artist who experiments with a large diversity of media and 
different forms of visual and plastic arts: artistic 
booklets, digital works, paintings… Since 2006, his work has 
been focusing mainly on digital arts, and particularly on 
interactive spaces (with, for example, art pieces such as 
The Table, in search of lost time… and his project 
Particles). He has exhibited his work in Egypt, Germany, 
France, Korea. He works as an Art director at the 
Planetarium center, one of the service centers at the Arab 
Academy for science, Technology and Martime transport. A 
member of many arts networks RamiMed, Animanet, 
creanumerica, Imera and others. Since it’s start up, he is a 
member of RamiMed network, animator in Egypt and responsible 
of the RamiMed page on Facebook.

●    The Black Body Under Construction: The Hottentot Then 
and Now (23 min) - Edleeca Thompson, Poe Johnson
In this podcast, Edleeca and Poe unpack the theoretical 
underpinnings at work in Kim Kardashian’s attempt to “break 
the Internet.” Exploring the historical and scientific 
contexts within which black racial constructions of 
difference evolved, they debate the relevance of these 
contexts and their employment in justifying past, and 
present, models of behavioral and sexual deviance.

●    The Emerging and Disappearing Networks of the Trinity 
Session (17 min) - Marcus Neustetter, Yvan Tina
Directed by Stephen Hobbs and Marcus Neustetter, The Trinity 
Session is a contemporary art production team defined by 
exchanges with their home-city Johannesburg, in relation to 
Africa and similar developed / developing contexts. Key 
activities include: temporary interventions and 
performances, in addition to producing and curating large 
scale public art programmes.

●    Nubean Textures: Locating Islamic Culture in Virtual 
Environments (14 min) - Huda Hashim, Yvan Tina
Islamic calligraphy and architecture have a long history of 
practice in the oriental world. Huda Hashim relocate parts 
of this story in the virtual environments she models with 3D 
animation softwares. By designing a 3D art gallery, it is 
now transformed into a “web gallery” that can be accessed 
online by a larger audience. Furthermore, the ability to 
manipulate the 3D environment allows for the potential to 
create installations that otherwise would be costly and 
difficult to construct in the real world.

●    Low-Tech for Local Relevance (20 min) - Marcus 
Neustetter, Yvan Tina
As founding member of The Trinity Session, along with 
Stephen Hobbes, Marcus Neustetter has been involved in 
several artistic projects in the Southern African region. 
This podcast presents a brief overview of his work and the 
local approach he promotes through the use of low technology.

●    What the Meteorite Craters Tell Us (16 min) - Marcus 
Neustetter, Yvan Tina
In this podcast, Marcus Neustetter and Yvan Tina talk about 
the first african space art projects and their underlying 
ideologies. After having discussed the social and economical 
impact of these projects, M. Neustetter makes a call for a 
bigger picture of the cultural and geological history of Africa.

●    The Kenyan Diasporas Voices: The Role of Emerging 
Technology in Health Industry (14min) - Jakki Opollo, 
Carolyne Ojwang
The journey from our homes in Kenya to the US, also known to 
many as the “land of milk and honey,” is embarked on as an 
opportunity to excel in our chosen industries. In excelling, 
Dr. Jakki Opollo has exceeded all milestones and stands out 
in a sea of nurses as a top nurse. She has been a nurse for 
14 years and currently serves as the Director of 
Professional Practice & Nursing Research at Parkland Health 
& Hospital System. In this podcast she sheds light on how 
emerging media plays a significant role in the health industry.

●    Reliquaries and Afrofuturisms (17 min) - Andrew Scott, 
Yvan Tina
A reliquary is a receptacle used to hold, display and keep 
sacred relics. Public sculptor and new media artist Andrew 
Scott welcomes us in his workshop where he creates his 
reliquaries that may be perceived differently in daylight or 
darkness. The laser cut relief sculpture functions as a 
traditional sculpture by day, with light playing across the 
faceted surface. By night however, projection mapping brings 
the work’s subject matter into clarity, as the large face 
becomes a death mask referencing recent killings of unarmed 
African American men (for example African American men who 
lost their lives in tragic encounters with the police in 
2014). The form and spirit of this work is directly informed 
by the reliquary figures of the Kota People in Gabon. An 
excellent opportunity to share ideas about stakes of power, 
aesthetics, remix of traditional art and globalization.

●    Appel à contributions pour un laboratoire d’idées (17 
min) - Aziz Mohamed Chafchaouni, Yvan Tina
Dans la première partie de cet entretien, Mohamed Aziz 
Chafchaouni tente de répondre à la question “Qu’est-ce que 
Afrique Virtuelle ?” au regard des phénomènes de 
mondialisation et des possibilités offertes par les 
techno-sciences. Après avoir discuté, entre autres, des 
enjeux de démocratisation du savoir et d’une nécessaire 
réappropriation de l’outil technologique, Mohamed A. 
Chafchaouni propose de réfléchir à la création d’un “think 
tank” pluridisciplinaire qui oeuvre à la formulation 
conceptuelle et théorique du projet.

●    The Kenyan Diasporas Voices: The Role of Emerging 
Technology in Radio (15 min) - Humphrey Muturi, Carolyn Ojwang
The Kenya immigrant population is frequently nostalgic and 
constantly retell stories of their homeland. The American 
culture is a culture shock and can energize or stifle an 
immigrant. Survival and eventual success in the US depends 
on perseverance and most importantly, the support system. 
The One Mic Show is an outlet for East Africans to discuss 
their experiences abroad and serve as a way for the 
immigrants not to feel overwhelmed. Humphrey Muturi is the 
brainchild behind The One Mic Show and can be caught on the 
Internet giving advice and addressing issues affecting the 
Kenyan Diaspora community.

●    The Kenyan Diaspora Voices: The Role of Emerging 
Technology in Performance Art (15 min) Justo Asikoye, 
Carolyn Ojwang
Jabali Afrika has been making Kenyan rhythms for 22-years 
and they are still strong and thriving. This creative Kenyan 
troupe has exceeded all expectations to remain relevant in 
the music arena. In this podcast Justo Asikoye, one of the 
founding members of Jabali Afrika sheds light into their 
endurance and musical experiences, from their humble 
beginnings to their music production processes.

●    Faire palpiter les sens (16 min) - Aziz Mohamed 
Chafchaouni, Yvan Tina
Poursuivant le dialogue autour des notions de rythme et de 
synergie, Mohamed Aziz Chafchaouni ouvre dans la deuxième 
partie de cet entretien des pistes de réflexion pour une 
réappropriation futuriste (et contemporaine) de l’essence 
africaine. Cependant, l’essentialisation des formes ne 
représente t-elle pas elle aussi un danger pour l’art ?

●    Ontologies vocales et technologies endogènes (17 min) - 
Gilles Kounou, Yvan Tina
Avec l’explosion de la bulle internet, les réseaux sociaux 
offrent l’opportunité de fournir des informations à des 
personnes qui se trouvent dans des endroits distants. Quels 
usages sont fait des réseaux sociaux en Afrique et quelles 
applications peut-on en tirer ? Gilles Kounou, ingénieur en 
système informatique et génie logiciel fournit quelques 
éléments de réponse à partir des problématiques locales de 
son pays, au Bénin. La première partie de ce podcast est 
consacrée à la numérisation de solutions par le moyen 
d’ontologies vocales qui permettent d’adresser des 
problématiques locales.


SPACE ART AND CULTURE
http://creativedisturbance.org/channel/space-art-and-culture/
●    Art spatial par Roger Malina (2 min) - Annick Bureaud, 
Jean-Luc Soret, Roger Malina
In the Audiolats series “Et ça veut dire ? / Meaning?” and 
for the Space Art & Culture dedicated channel, Roger Malina 
gives his definition of “space art” (art spatial).
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 11 
septembre 2014 à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Sergey Lopoukha “Lull” (Universal 
Production Music Publishing) – Référence complémentaire / 
Further reading 
[http://www.diatrope.com/rfm/docs/Malina_Space_1991.pdf]

●    Ère spatiale par Roger Malina (7 min) - Annick Bureaud, 
Jean-Luc Soret, Roger Malina
In the Audiolats series “Et ça veut dire ? / Meaning?” and 
for the Space Art & Culture dedicated channel, Roger Malina 
gives his definition of “space age or space era” (ére 
spatiale).Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 
11 septembre 2014 à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Sergey Lopoukha “Lull” (Universal 
Production Music Publishing).

●    The Johannesburg Rocket Factory (15 min) - Marcus 
Neustetter, Roger Malina
Artist-Activist Marcus Neustetter and Astronomer-Editor 
Roger Malina discuss the Rocket Factory project in 
Johannesburg; the ancient factory is being converted into 
residential units. Neustetter convinced the developer to 
creatively transform the project to create a unique 
residential space that is also connected to the imaginary of 
the place and its nearby residents.


AUDIOLATS
http://creativedisturbance.org/channel/audiolats/
●    “Performing with Jellyfishes”, Meeting with Robertina 
Sebjanic (17 min) - Robertina Sebjanic, Annick Bureaud
In this podcast, slovene artist Robertina Šebjanič discusses 
her work with jellyfishes and more precisely the sound 
performance “Aurelia 1 + Hz / proto viva sonification”. 
Issues of immortality, ecology and our relation to living 
creatures are discussed.
“Performing with Jellyfishes”, rencontre avec Robertina 
Šebjanič, 16’53
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud, le 6 février 2015 à Paris, 
jingles et habillage sonore Jean-Yves Leloup, musique 
extraits de la performance de Robertina Šebjanič avec les 
méduses “Aurelia 1 + Hz / proto viva sonification”.
“Performing with Jellyfishes”, meeting with Robertina 
Šebjanič, 16’53
Recorded by Annick Bureaud, February 6th 2015 in Paris, 
jingles and sound design Jean-Yves Leloup, music from the 
performance “Aurelia 1 + Hz / proto viva sonification” of 
Robertina Šebjanič with the jellyfishes.

●    “Earth Sound Earth Signal: Energies and Earth Magnitude 
in the Arts” by Douglas Kahn, présenté par Roger Malina (6 
min) - Annick Bureaud, Jean-Luc Soret, Roger Malina
In the Audiolats series “Il était une fois une œuvre / 
Milestone work”, Roger Malina presents the book “Earth Sound 
Earth Signal: Energies and Earth Magnitude in the Arts” by 
Douglas Kahn (University of California Press, 2013).
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 11 
septembre 2014, à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Sergey Lopoukha “Lull”, Alexander 
Zaitsev, Ilya Baramiya “New Numbers” (Universal Production 
Music Publishing).

●    Hacker, Maker & Amatorat (Art-Science: Émergences et 
Ruptures) (7 min) - Annick Bureaud, Jean-Luc Soret, Roger Malina
In this section of his interview on “Art-Science : Emergence 
et ruptures”, Roger Malina addresses the topic of DIY and 
makers.
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 11 
septembre 2014 à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Carl Harms, David James Elliott 
“The Wire”, Sergey Lopoukha “Lull” (Universal Production 
Music Publishing).

●    Interaction avec le vivan (Art-Science: Émergences et 
Ruptures) (6 min) - Annick Bureaud, Jean-Luc Soret, Roger Malina
In this section of his interview on “Art-Science : Emergence 
et ruptures”, Roger Malina addresses the topic of bio art 
and synthetic biology.

●    Conscience partagée & travail collectif (Art-Science: 
Émergences et Ruptures) (6 min) - Annick Bureaud, Jean-Luc 
Soret, Roger Malina
In this section of his interview on “Art-Science : Emergence 
et ruptures”, Roger Malina addresses the topics of shared 
consciousness and collaborative work.
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 11 
septembre 2014 à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Carl Harms, David James Elliott 
“The Wire”, Sergey Lopoukha “Lull” (Universal Production 
Music Publishing).

●    Innovation ou conservatisme (Art-Science: Émergences et 
Ruptures) (4 min) - Annick Bureaud, Jean-Luc Soret, Roger Malina
In this section of his interview on “Art-Science : Emergence 
et ruptures”, Roger Malina addresses the topic of innovation 
versus conservatism in art-science and technology.
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 11 
septembre 2014 à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Carl Harms, David James Elliott 
“The Wire”, Sergey Lopoukha “Lull” (Universal Production 
Music Publishing.

●    La culture des données (Art-Science: Émergences et 
Ruptures) (5 min) - Annick Bureaud, Jean-Luc Soret, Roger Malina
In this section of his interview on “Art-Science : Emergence 
et ruptures”, Roger Malina addresses the topic of big data 
and art.
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 11 
septembre 2014 à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Carl Harms, David James Elliott 
“The Wire”, Sergey Lopoukha “Lull” (Universal Production 
Music Publishing).

●    Art-Science: Émergences et Ruptures (Entretien intégral 
/ Full interview) (26 min) - Annick Bureaud, Jean-Luc Soret, 
Roger Malina
Roger Malina speaks about his views on the current trends in 
art, science and technology.
Enregistré par Annick Bureaud & Jean-Luc Soret, le 11 
septembre 2014 à Paris, jingles et habillage sonore 
Jean-Yves Leloup, musiques Carl Harms, David James Elliott 
“The Wire”, Sergey Lopoukha “Lull” (Universal Production 
Music Publishing).