[spectre] Dispatches from Ukraine: Tactical Media Reflflections and Responses

Hanns Holger Rutz contact at sciss.de
Mon Jul 18 09:58:04 CEST 2022

Frankly Christoph, I don't think you have absorbed anything that had 
been written in that very long statement.

The whole situation reminds me very much of the coup in Venezuela when 
Maduro took over after the death of Chavez. Exactly the same "there is 
only shades of gray, but Chomsky, but America, but bla".

There are moments in life when you can make very clear decisions on 
which side to stand. This doesn't imply at all, that you cannot 
criticise anyone "on your side". We don't need to be fanboys of USA to 
take a clear position in this war. But I'm repeating what Rasa already 
wrote, so I don't know if it makes sense to try to come to any common 
sense here.

As a person that grew up in Western Germany, for the first time I 
understood that I might be wrong on judging things that I have not 
personally experienced, was getting to know people, friends, who had 
tried to flee the GDR or be non-conformant in the GDR, and who ended up 
in GDR prison and were damaged for life.

Best, .h.h.

On 18/07/2022 09.51, christoph theiler wrote:
> Rasa wrote: "In this situation there are only clear two sides - Either 
> Supporting Ukraine or Being Pro -Tutin"
> I cannot agree with this friend/enemy logic: "If you are not my friend, 
> then you are my enemy".
> It has already been said here that in addition to Ukraine and Russia, 
> America also plays an important role in this conflict.
> Best
> Christoph
> Rasa Smite schrieb:

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