[spectre] Dispatches from Ukraine: Tactical Media Reflflections and Responses

[christoph theiler]

Hans Holger Rutz,

I have seriously read Rasa's article.

  In Latvia, the BIB growth from 2005-2018 (with the exception of 
2008-2010) was always higher than the EU average,
often up to 400%. (Source: 
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lettland#wirtschaftsdaten).
This is a very large difference between factual situation and what was 
written here in the discussion.
You are welcome to research other discrepancies yourself.

  I was in Riga in 2003 at the RIXC conference - it took place in a very 
desolate looking school building.
About 10 years later I was again in Riga: Rixc conference took place in 
the building of the business school - well equipped with best 
infrastructure etc. -
no difference to a German university.

In 2003, as a result of a democratic decision, the Russian minority 
(approx. 25% of the population) was the uderdogs.
In front of people who talked in Russian was spit out on the open street.
Russian language people were not served in bars.
  In 2013 the situation was a little more relaxed; However, democratic 
development in Latvia is to remove the Russian language completely from 
schools,
which necessarily has to lead to moods in the Russian administration, 
regardless of whether there is a Putin, a Jelzin or a Gorbachoff.

To get to the point:
In addition to the dichotomy outlined by Rasa, I stand on the third side.
These are those people who suffer from war, these are those people in 
front of which are spit out for no reason,
these are those people who die from hunger because the Ukrainian grain 
deliveries are absent,
  and these are the people who end up in prison because they make use of 
freedom of speech.
To claim to have read the "wrong" books also belongs here in the arsenal 
of propaganda.

And as a result of that third side you have to analyze, under which 
condition the war in Ukraine can end.

  I am not on the side of the aggressors, but also not on the side of 
those who make false decisions using a democratic majority.
And at the end: I think little of art projects that make war in Ukraine 
on the subject of aesthetically charged activities.

Best
Christoph






Hanns Holger Rutz schrieb:
> Frankly Christoph, I don't think you have absorbed anything that had 
> been written in that very long statement.
>
> The whole situation reminds me very much of the coup in Venezuela when 
> Maduro took over after the death of Chavez. Exactly the same "there is 
> only shades of gray, but Chomsky, but America, but bla".
>
> There are moments in life when you can make very clear decisions on 
> which side to stand. This doesn't imply at all, that you cannot 
> criticise anyone "on your side". We don't need to be fanboys of USA to 
> take a clear position in this war. But I'm repeating what Rasa already 
> wrote, so I don't know if it makes sense to try to come to any common 
> sense here.
>
> As a person that grew up in Western Germany, for the first time I 
> understood that I might be wrong on judging things that I have not 
> personally experienced, was getting to know people, friends, who had 
> tried to flee the GDR or be non-conformant in the GDR, and who ended 
> up in GDR prison and were damaged for life.
>
> Best, .h.h.
>
>
>
> On 18/07/2022 09.51, christoph theiler wrote:
>> Rasa wrote: "In this situation there are only clear two sides - 
>> Either Supporting Ukraine or Being Pro -Tutin"
>>
>> I cannot agree with this friend/enemy logic: "If you are not my 
>> friend, then you are my enemy".
>> It has already been said here that in addition to Ukraine and Russia, 
>> America also plays an important role in this conflict.
>>
>> Best
>> Christoph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rasa Smite schrieb:
>