[spectre] a terrible day

[heath bunting]

chris

what is your position on the west supported white helmets ?

(i ask as the syria dirty war is a prelude to the ukraine war)

do you think they are heroes, as portrayed in the oscar winning 
documentary about them ?

or do you think they harvested organs from the people they 'rescued' for 
the israeli bio-market ?

i am happy to unsubscribe from the list if i am making people 
uncomfortable - let me know

hope all is well

heath



On Tue, 8 Mar 2022, contact wrote:

> Right. I think we've heard it all now. I'm not sure how we're supposed to read this. Is this culture jammin? Best poetry? Or deranged
> nonsense? It's an argument that dosen't even stand up to its own internal logic, if it can be called that. It's also pretty offensive
> on many levels. It could also pass quite convincingly as disinformation. I really give up trying to understand what the game is behind
> this. I find Steve Bannon's motto- "flood the field with shit" coming to mind.
> 
> This thread is becoming pretty pointless is this is the calibre of response to a situation so serious.
> 
> 
> 
>
>       On 8 Mar 2022 at 11:27, heath bunting <heathbunting at irational.org> wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I would prefer to start the conversation with the simple 
> > question, what is required so that everybody can live in peace and 
> > freedom? And rather than assume a trope like the "spheres of influence" 
> > as a given, I would only want to discuss how this war can be stopped, 
> > and how a situation in which future wars can be prevented.
> we have to constantly choose peace and freedom in all our interactions, 
> but also be courageous enough to acknowledge and integrate the horror
> of the will to power in ourselves and others
> ignoring the crimes against humanity of our 'leaders' will not bring peace
> in ourselves or for others
> are we willing occasionally to engage in the means of black activities 
> such child sex blackmail operations and human organ traffic financing to 
> obtained the ends ?
> are we then willing to integrate these activities into our peaceful 
> and free lives ?
> having a non-constituted extra-legal supra-national body, which can only 
> engaged in covert horror to survive, in our lives makes choosing peace and 
> freedom almost impossible
> imperialism is the supreme crime against humanity and should be the first 
> subject addressed in any conversation with intent to better the world
> "There are roughly 750 US foreign military bases; they are spread across 
> 80 nations! After the U.S is the UK, but they only have 145 bases. Russia 
> has about 3 dozen bases, and China just five."
> it is completely disproportionate to compare USA empire [USA, UK, Israel, 
> Saudi Arabia ...] with russia. the differential factor is 300/1.
> in my opinion, another word for wisdom is proportionality
> the first task of the day should always be to confront the USAE
> until is is gone
> russia [and others] are confronting the horror of USAE supported 
> euro-fascism, as they confronted islamo-fascism [and beat] in syria
> remember russia lost 20,000,000 people to euro-fascism in WWII
> this is not a regional war, this is a world war to kill USAE and its proxy 
> fighters
> the sooner ukraine surrenders and accepts the conditions of 
> de-nazification the less damage there will be
> this can be said for all of us as well
> all of us in 'the west' need to go through a process of imperial 
> decontamination
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