[spectre] TAKE-OVER!

Lorenzo Taiuti md3169@mclink.it
Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:36:53 +0200


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Dear Jeremy,luci,Eric,Chris,Annick etc...
i would not imagine that proposing the "TakeOver" discussion would =
become almost a "chat line"!
I cannot keep track of arguments...
The idea of the online stuff it's good.
But maybe we could just insert a special container in the spectre =
website putting together addresses and e-mails on the take over issue.=20
I teach, work and write on new media and problems keep crossing.
Expecially about teaching. And surely i would like a turn-over of ideas.
But i wanted to say a few things on my first intervention.
1) The most visible elements of "take-over" in Linz were: The presence =
of Guggenheim web curator- The spasmodic admiration for Oliviero Toscani =
(The Man who made Money & Culture together!) - The presence of =
pretty/teeny/young/things discovering new ideas for commercialising web =
in the  Electro-Lobby-
2) The Guggenheim web/curator made a very obvious move to open to the =
supposed cyber/audience sayng how bad is the art system not to notice =
the very new things happening in the technoart scene.=20
The teen/genious of electrolobby were just themselves: young people =
getting immediately to commercial visibility because of the peculiarity =
of the new/commerce.
Oliviero Toscani represented his own monument.
3) All three exemples do not answer exactly to the solutions technoart =
first thought as original way out from the contradictions between =
creativity and production.=20
4) On the other side the charming marginality of the techno-art scene is =
more and more approached by artists from the contemporary art scene that =
are attracted ( like the bordeline control devices of Paul Garrin) by =
anything that moves: And they shoot on anything.=20
This kind of integration seems to be leading to shapeless integration ( =
videoart is under the same spell) and the password of the art scene =
about the new Media is " Oh, it's just like any other medium...The =
Artist must be free to experience anything....".
I think i remember that new Media had a strong and innovative approach =
to creativity and communication.
Is that all gone?
Ciao
Lorenzo Taiuti




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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000><STRONG>Dear Jeremy,luci,Eric,Chris,Annick=20
etc...</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>i would not imagine that proposing the "TakeOver" =
discussion would=20
become almost a "chat line"!</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>I cannot keep track of arguments...</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>The idea of the online stuff it's good.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>But maybe we could just insert a special container in the =
spectre=20
website putting together addresses and e-mails on the take over issue.=20
</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>I teach, work and write on new media and problems keep=20
crossing.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Expecially about teaching. And surely i would like a =
turn-over of=20
ideas.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>But i wanted to say a few things on my first=20
intervention.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>1) The most visible elements of "take-over" in Linz were: =
The=20
presence of Guggenheim web curator- The spasmodic admiration for =
Oliviero=20
Toscani (The Man who made Money &amp; Culture together!) - The presence =
of=20
pretty/teeny/young/things discovering new ideas for commercialising web =
in the=20
&nbsp;Electro-Lobby-</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>2) The Guggenheim web/curator made a very obvious move to =
open to=20
the supposed cyber/audience sayng how bad is the art system not to =
notice the=20
very new things happening in the technoart scene. </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>The teen/genious of electrolobby were just themselves: =
young people=20
getting immediately to commercial visibility because of&nbsp;the =
peculiarity of=20
the new/commerce.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Oliviero Toscani represented his own =
monument.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>3) All three exemples do not answer exactly to the =
solutions=20
technoart first thought as original way out from the contradictions =
between=20
creativity and production.&nbsp;</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>4) On the other side the charming marginality of the =
techno-art=20
scene is more and more approached by artists from the contemporary art =
scene=20
that are attracted ( like the bordeline control devices of Paul Garrin) =
by=20
anything that moves: And they shoot on anything. </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>This kind of integration seems to be leading to shapeless=20
integration ( videoart is under the same spell) and the password of the =
art=20
scene about the new Media is " Oh, it's just like any other medium...The =
Artist=20
must be free to experience anything....".</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>I think i remember that new Media had a strong and =
innovative=20
approach to creativity and communication.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Is that all gone?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Ciao</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Lorenzo Taiuti</STRONG></DIV>
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