[spectre] Are rating systems a placeholder for unions in a neo-lib world?

[Darko Fritz]

starting the database will be great. please include freelance curators next to artist.

something from web
Who pay artist
http://www.whopaysartists.com/

best
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On Jun 3, 2014, at 15:25 PM, Jaromil wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014, Brian Degger wrote:
> 
>>                                 Site Offline
>> 
>>  Due to an influx in popularity [1]www.promoterdb.com is temporarily
>>  offline while we re-assess how things are managed and where the
>>  site is heading. There has been a lot of contact and opinions given
>>  about this site, so we have decided to pull it offline until we
>>  have time to create a medium where people can discuss it's future
>>  and functionality.
> 
> wow. interesting.
> 
> I think their idea is very good.
> hope someone can keep it up.
> 
> Brian, should we start a project like this? :^)
> we could think of running a db, but just for Europe...
> 
> OTOH I reiterate my doubts about such an axiomatic approach to labour
> politics to be any better than actual unionism, but the rationality of
> neo-liberism is asking its toll here.
> 
> good luck rating the content aggregators!
> 
> p.s. (and thanks for replying. cultural operators announce lists feel
> 	rather Kafkian at times)
> 
> 
>>  On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Jaromil <[2]jaromil at dyne.org> wrote:
>> 
>>    dear Spectres,
>> 
>>    some years ago (most people here might have forgotten anyway) I've
>>    lamented my bad experience in contributing to the Piksel media art
>>    festival in Bergen. At that time I thought of proposing a guideline of
>>    sorts and hoped in the birth of some kind of unionism for all those of
>>    us who are content producers and end up being milked and thrown away by
>>    aggregators of sorts. I'm sure many of you out there have to go through
>>    such experiences.
>> 
>>    Today I've found this [3]http://www.promoterdb.com
>>    which might be of some interest.
>> 
>>    I'm not sure if this will work as expected and I'm not affiliated with
>>    it in any way. However it might be interesting to experiment, filling in
>>    some feedback about the good experiences at least.
>> 
>>> From a unionist perspective it is somehow sad that the overall decay of
>>    labour based relationships within content producers and art institutions
>>    have lead to resort to such disgregating and passive methods.
>>    But then what else?
>> 
>>    Are on-line rating systems the place-holder for labour unions in a
>>    neo-lib world?
> 
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